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Title: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Matthewf/Norbert/TuiDog on July 17, 2012, 20:27:05 PM
What do you use as the base for your own slipcase slide recipe, assuming you already have the graphite ???

have tried fancy paint etch primer, works ok, but quite thin
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Nigel on July 17, 2012, 20:29:50 PM
thats ya problem... using the fancy stuff not the cheap ass stuff
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Post by: mohawk on July 17, 2012, 20:34:02 PM
Can it be made at home cheaper ,   but  of the same quality as slide /slip coat  ? .
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Post by: Nigel on July 17, 2012, 20:36:42 PM
Do you hold your pinky out when you paint it on Matt???  cou
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Post by: boon on July 17, 2012, 20:44:53 PM
Do you hold your pinky out when you paint it on Matt???  cou

Hahaha! Can someone tell us whats in it? Wouldn't mind trying to make some
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Nigel on July 17, 2012, 20:49:48 PM
main thing is paint and graphite powder
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Post by: mohawk on July 17, 2012, 20:53:44 PM
I couldnt find good quality paint and the amount of graphite powder needed to make a couple of litres at a price that would make it worth while .
 That takes into account that there is a fair heap of solids in the stuff you buy . pop
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Matthewf/Norbert/TuiDog on July 17, 2012, 20:58:52 PM
i got plenty of graphite, current recipe is about 50/50 graphite/etch primer


what paint base is best? it can't be rocket science
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Post by: mohawk on July 17, 2012, 21:04:19 PM
What about the paint they use for road marking ?
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Post by: Paul on July 17, 2012, 21:17:27 PM
Didn't someone say mix it in concrete paint - the stuff you put on the patio/ garage floor/ driveway.
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Nigel on July 17, 2012, 21:27:35 PM
you need something that drys quick... doesn't concrete paint take quite some time to dry?
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Post by: mof on July 17, 2012, 23:06:34 PM
I've used paving paint, paint shop man recommended it as it sticks like $#!t to a blanket.

Mixing graphite powder and paint is a slow laborious and potentially messy job. The two don't like to be mixed easily. but stay on it, they do mix!
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Paul on July 17, 2012, 23:10:52 PM
I've used paving paint, paint shop man recommended it as it sticks like $#!t to a blanket.

Mixing graphite powder and paint is a slow laborious and potentially messy job. The two don't like to be mixed easily. but stay on it, they do mix!

How did you mix it?  I'm wondering if putting the graphite in a container and slowly stirring in the paint would make it mix easier?  I would think if you added graphite to the paint, the graphite would probably just stick together in clumps?
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: mof on July 17, 2012, 23:15:21 PM
Just with a flat stirring stick. Yes, it clumps for a while, but finally gives in. The graphite is so light and wants to get away as well, stirring into the graphite might have a black mess everywhere as well.
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Paul on July 17, 2012, 23:59:57 PM
What about just borrowing the mixer from the kitchen?  Let us know how it goes..
cou O))))
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Matthewf/Norbert/TuiDog on July 18, 2012, 09:12:14 AM
What about just borrowing the mixer from the kitchen?  Let us know how it goes..
cou O))))
paul did that with the iron once to wax the skis, did not go well
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Kiwi on July 18, 2012, 18:04:30 PM
grandma,s recipe.   graphite powder , some army surplus eitch prime , mixed with spar varnish . this was used on the first alloy jetboats we built in the mid 60,,s    as they were slippery by design anyway .   
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Kenjet on July 18, 2012, 19:56:14 PM
What about just borrowing the mixer from the kitchen?  Let us know how it goes..
cou O))))

Divorce proceedings soon to follow. Now there's a thought  ::)

Matt could  brew blend it in that fancy Tui craft distillery sand trap   ;D
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Matthewf/Norbert/TuiDog on July 18, 2012, 20:02:37 PM
Divorce proceedings soon to follow. Now there's a thought  ::)

Matt could  brew blend it in that fancy Tui craft distillery sand trap   ;D
you said Tui  b_r

plumbed the sand trap today ken, 6 hoses!
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Kenjet on July 18, 2012, 20:11:21 PM
you said Tui  b_r

plumbed the sand trap today ken, 6 hoses!

Water, hot milk-trim/regular,cream,steam-that's 5 what's the other hose for  ii

PS. SAND  b>
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Post by: CBBR on July 18, 2012, 20:19:17 PM
i find boating in water is the best option, slide for when you run out of talent/water not because you can my 2c
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Matthewf/Norbert/TuiDog on July 18, 2012, 20:23:23 PM
ben the tui man vantage marine GM CFO COO and jet unit tinker is over to go boating in august, so i need to invent a slipcote with a co-eff of drag not seen before! water temp here in the mountains is 6 deg c right now!


So it looks like etch primer is the most popular 'base' to use....?
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: JR on July 18, 2012, 21:50:52 PM

So it looks like etch primer is the most popular 'base' to use....?

Have been watching this with hand over mouth so here goes.... Roadmarking paint forget it when drys it gets brittle and will flake off... Paving paint is better but you still need to apply an etchprimer to make it stick.
Etch primer all the way... So here is the trick... Sand and clean the area with thinners, Apply a thin coat mix of etch primer and thinners 75% etch 25% thinners it will get messy and want to run down your brush so a small roller is the best.. Etch primer will dry very fast so by the time you get to the end, Where you started will be dry enough to start applying your mix.... Now the mix of grafite and etch is not rocket science...
There will be a bit of trial and error but start with a 50/50 mix.. If to thick you can thin it down with more etch or thinners....From a 1ltr tin you should get your first coat of etch and then 2 coats of 50/50 mix....
Shop around for your primer as not all etch primers are equal.... Hope this helps.... Cheers JR
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Matthewf/Norbert/TuiDog on July 18, 2012, 21:54:13 PM
jr thats pretty much my recipe ... etch and graphite, except it a black/green colour  O))))
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Peter. on September 22, 2012, 14:04:22 PM
I use paving paint and graphite on an etch base. Lasts as well as anything. B))T
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Post by: muzza on September 23, 2012, 00:01:59 AM
Hi I use Blackboard paint and graphite 50/50
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Post by: YELLOW TERROR on September 23, 2012, 16:32:13 PM
hi a silly question  sl where or how do you buy graphite ?? and blackbroad paint etc
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Paul on September 23, 2012, 20:21:13 PM
Graphite powder can be used as an agricultural lubricant - try farming shops, RD1 etc.  Blackboard paint can be bought all over the place, like Resene etc.

http://www.resene.co.nz/comn/whtsnew/blackboard_paint.htm (http://www.resene.co.nz/comn/whtsnew/blackboard_paint.htm)
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Hacky on May 14, 2013, 22:05:00 PM
Has anyone tried this product from CP Performance It has graphite and molybdenum disulphide in it as well.                                http://www.cpperformance.com/p-15759-speed-kote-bottom-paint-gallon.aspx
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Dicko on May 14, 2013, 22:44:39 PM
Hacky we are using John Deere graphite lubricant in a spray can TY25797 got it from Peel Valley Machinery in Tamworth, works really well, I should know I pushed Matthews boat heaps of times last weekend cou
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Matthewf/Norbert/TuiDog on May 15, 2013, 11:20:46 AM
Hacky we are using John Deere graphite lubricant in a spray can TY25797 got it from Peel Valley Machinery in Tamworth, works really well, I should know I pushed Matthews boat heaps of times last weekend cou

Hey hey that's harsh!..... But true

The John Deere stuff seems to be the mist simple solution. Dries right away
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Hacky on May 15, 2013, 15:05:54 PM
I've got the John Deere stuff but I just found this stuff with molybdenum disulphide on the net, and thought it may be better as moly is real tuff stuff.
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Fuges on August 15, 2013, 19:21:44 PM
Have been here with interest, I was thinking of trying the product used for spray on ute deck liners, have tried stripping this stuff off ute deck and sticks like sh++ to a blanket, its able to be built up to around 3mm thick.
Anyone given this a go?
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Matthewf/Norbert/TuiDog on August 15, 2013, 19:28:52 PM
been tried. expensive and hard to repair boat.
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Paul on July 27, 2015, 09:43:16 AM
I saw this in Mitre10 a few days back.  Has anyone used this with any success?
Title: Re: Slide Slipcote - Home Recipe
Post by: Brenhan on July 27, 2015, 10:26:06 AM
I have graphite paint that I import, $40 for a 950ml can.

Seems to work well.