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Offline Jeff B

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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2021, 11:03:45 AM »
Yep the starter is a monster, with the small gear on flywheel it spins the 125 faster than an old Grenada running at WOT.....only have to touch the starter button and it's running.
Weight is piling up though...
75kg all up with big 20ah battery(no charging circuit...yet) and a full tank of premium gas.
Ready for water test....

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Offline Jeff B

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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2021, 17:58:45 PM »
https://youtu.be/BB7hDriCyFo
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Offline Jimmy Jet

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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2021, 19:41:43 PM »
Brilliant. How did the powervalve go?
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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2021, 22:05:07 PM »
Looks quite snappy..... maybe I'm just thinking of the belt?
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Offline Jeff B

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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2021, 09:34:01 AM »
Only pushed the power valve lever once, rpm increased but not sure how much, that video is with the low exhaust port mode so there is heaps of power on tap. Waiting on a tacho so I can get some accurate data but promising first run.
The belt, well the belt is holding up fine.....for now.....
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Offline Henry

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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #50 on: June 17, 2021, 09:39:20 AM »
Looks like the relatively big pump and gearing worked a treat. Do you think it would work with a putts four-stroke like a Honda XR250?

When customers have an idea to do something a bit tricky i can almost always send them to the relevant Jeff thread now days. The belt drive was the final missing piece.

Maybe sounds even worse than a 300cc tho....
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Offline Jeff B

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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2021, 12:22:32 PM »
Nup the little screaming 125 does sound slightly better than the lugging 3 hunny......slightly.

Henry, the xr250 is a dead duck...air cooled,
Look at the 4 stroke scooters with cvt belt drive...there are some 250cc models that might work, some of the chinasian cvt buggy engines are the same, I think yamaha knockoff?
20hp might be ok?
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Offline steelo

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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2021, 14:51:52 PM »
Thanks for the quick video Jeff. Looks brilliant. More More.
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Offline Jeff B

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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2021, 18:10:57 PM »
Bit more testing today.
After an initial flooding problem, bit of swarf in needle valve, got some data runs in.
Minimum plane, about 6500rpm, 25k
Cruises nicely 7500rpm, 35k
WOT 10800rpm, 55k
Hull sits up and cruises nicely, pulls nose down at full throttle, no porposing.
Can probably bang the ride plate up a bit and get a bit more speed but it handles good now.
The belt is still holding together too....

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Offline steelo

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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2021, 20:33:42 PM »
I suppose you can just vary the sizes of the pulleys to adjust speed / rpm. Something we can't do in our boats
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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2021, 19:18:07 PM »
Quote from: steelo on June 19, 2021, 20:33:42 PM
I suppose you can just vary the sizes of the pulleys to adjust speed / rpm. Something we can't do in our boats
Stick a lathe gearbox in it jeff🤣
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Offline Jeff B

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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2021, 11:34:57 AM »
Quote from: steelo on June 19, 2021, 20:33:42 PM
I suppose you can just vary the sizes of the pulleys to adjust speed / rpm. Something we can't do in our boats

Yes that is the benefit of this setup.
Although I think I have it pretty close first pop with 10,800rpm (goal was 11,000)
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Offline Jeff B

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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2021, 12:41:56 PM »
3mm ride plate a bit flimsy and hanging down a bit so fitted some lightweight aluminum turnbuckles to fine tune the handling.

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Offline Jeff B

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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #58 on: July 04, 2021, 15:40:04 PM »
Not happy with the crappy heat wrapped exhaust, now that I now the concept actually works (there was a tiny amount of doubt)
So I started making proper jacketed exhaust, this shape has been designed to optimize power with a strong bottom end, punchy mid range and a screaming top end.... ;)

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Offline Warwick Marflitt

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Re: Jeff jet 1750
« Reply #59 on: July 05, 2021, 08:18:20 AM »
You'd win the NZ Sculptured art award with that creation Jeff!
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